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Mark M
Every time there's a discussion of tents on Answers, invariably someone parades this Coleman "guarantee" as the trump card by which one should judge Coleman tents superior to all others. Please don't take this as a personal attack or an impeachment of Coleman's products, but I can find no such guarantee anywhere on Coleman's website, and neither can Coleman's own customer support staff. The only consumer protection appears to be Coleman's standard one-year limited warranty against defects in materials or manufacturing, which is actually rather weak by comparison to other major tent manufacturers.
So what exactly is the Coleman's "Keeps You Dry, Guaranteedâ¢" promise mean, how does it make Coleman tents superior to all others, and what are the terms and conditions regarding this guarantee? The _best_ answer should have a link to the guarantee description on Coleman's (or Jarden's) website or some other reasonably definitive evidence aside from conjecture or empirical evidence.
Perhaps I have poked the hornet's nest a little. I'm not trying to rumple feathers, but just correct a misnomer about this so-called guarantee so that novice campers can make a more objective and unbiased comparison. We all have personal experience that form the basis of our answers, and the sharing of this experience is one of the benefits of Yahoo Answers. So I have no issue with anyone sharing their personal experience or even making objective recommendations for untested products that are in-line with these experiences. It is also hard to fault a person for referring to a manufacturer's guarantee of performance, at least if there's any thing behind that guarantee.
And that's where I have an issue, because Coleman's "Keeps You Dry, Guaranteedâ¢" statement does not appear to be a guarantee, (in other words, a promise, but with legal/contractual obligations, particularly as described in US Law, such as Magnuson-Moss and similar), but rather a trademarked marketing slogan. I have
Ahhh, got cut off. What I was saying that I have not found anything on Coleman's website or in talking to Coleman representatives to support a guarantee in the common-use or legal sense, but I am still waiting for their legal department to respond.
Note: Coleman's "Keeps You Dry" guarantee does not distinguish between their Sundome and Hooligan models. Accordingly, notwithstanding limitations yet to be discovered, both should be be equally capable of keeping you dry insofar as the guarantee is concerned.
@MM: Indeed, the plaintiff is responsible for mitigating the damages, but barring any liability disclaimer, the manufacturer may be liable for reimbursing the plaintiff the remediation costs and other incidental damages such as lost vacation time and travel/incidental expenses associated with an interrupted vacation, plus punitive damages for breach of contract and/or tort, false and deceptive advertising, etc...
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Yes, that has been bugging me too. I used to sell high-end backpacking tents and worked for outfitters and trekking companies that used and rented a lot of tents. And I have owned everything from Coleman (my first tent), Diamond, Jansport and Eureka, to North Face, Sierra Designs, Marmot, Cannondale and Moss. And I have camped out with buddies in virtually every marque of US and European tent in production in the past 40 years.
The idea that Coleman tents could be somehow more waterproof than (or even AS waterproof as) better tents is ridiculous. And I can't believe any reasonable tent company would make such a ludicrous claim, since there are so many factors of use and situation that can cause leakage. SO many rookie campers don;t know how to set up tents and so frequently mistake condensation for "leakage" that any company making such a claim would probably go bankrupt dealing with complaints and warranty issues.
In fact, in my experience, both Coleman and Eureka tents tend to have earlier failures in waterproofing coating and in construction (seams, pole breakage) than more costly tents. And their designs tend not to be as weather proof in high rain and storm conditions. This is not such a big deal when you figure in the cost -- they are fine for people with tight budgets and for beginners or light users in moderate conditions.
I have no gripe with Coleman and have suggested their products to many family members and friends as preferable to discount store junk, but these are not tents that will perform as well or as long as higher end ones with heavy use and in extreme weather. If my life depended on staying dry and out of the wind in a remote area, I would not be taking any Coleman with me.
I'll be interested to see what the wash brings up on this question.
Yes, that has been bugging me too. I used to sell high-end backpacking tents and worked for outfitters and trekking companies that used and rented a lot of tents. And I have owned everything from Coleman (my first tent), Diamond, Jansport and Eureka, to North Face, Sierra Designs, Marmot, Cannondale and Moss. And I have camped out with buddies in virtually every marque of US and European tent in production in the past 40 years.
The idea that Coleman tents could be somehow more waterproof than (or even AS waterproof as) better tents is ridiculous. And I can't believe any reasonable tent company would make such a ludicrous claim, since there are so many factors of use and situation that can cause leakage. SO many rookie campers don;t know how to set up tents and so frequently mistake condensation for "leakage" that any company making such a claim would probably go bankrupt dealing with complaints and warranty issues.
In fact, in my experience, both Coleman and Eureka tents tend to have earlier failures in waterproofing coating and in construction (seams, pole breakage) than more costly tents. And their designs tend not to be as weather proof in high rain and storm conditions. This is not such a big deal when you figure in the cost -- they are fine for people with tight budgets and for beginners or light users in moderate conditions.
I have no gripe with Coleman and have suggested their products to many family members and friends as preferable to discount store junk, but these are not tents that will perform as well or as long as higher end ones with heavy use and in extreme weather. If my life depended on staying dry and out of the wind in a remote area, I would not be taking any Coleman with me.
I'll be interested to see what the wash brings up on this question.
Language Arts Quick 3 Questions! ~ Please help!?
Shane
Identify the signal words for a comparison and contrast article.
A. like, similarly, on the other hand
B. because, as a result, so
C. first, then, finally
Identify the run-on sentence?
A. Last summer Claire and Eric spent three weeks camping and hiking the Appalachian Trail.
B. They tried to pack as little as possible so their backpacks would not slow them down.
C. Claire carried the most, she brought snacks, water, maps, and her sleeping bag.
Read the sentence, then decide which of the following it contains:
Bacon and eggs are the first foods that I learned to cook by myself.
A. compound subject
B. compound predicate
C. both compound subject and compound predicate
Answer
The first one is very simple think about comparison = similarity the answer is A.
The second answer is C. because it continues and ect.
The third is C. because it has a compound subject and compound predicate
The first one is very simple think about comparison = similarity the answer is A.
The second answer is C. because it continues and ect.
The third is C. because it has a compound subject and compound predicate
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