i am thinking about getting into backpacking...?

Trevor

i am thinking about getting into back packing. the way that i would like to backpack is very minimal. i am wondering how much all of the gear for this would cost??

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Go to an army surplus store. Also, try garage sales and newspapers. Lots of people buy camping gear and only use it once or twice. If you shop around for good deals, you can probably get everything you need for a weekend for under $100. Last, ask people you know. Some of your friends or family might have old camping gear laying around that they never use. Shoot me an email about your plans and maybe I can help you more.

What is a good hiking/backpacking Backpack??? HELP!?

Brandon

I have been on short camping/backpacking trips before but nothing serious. I'm a very light packer so I don't need anything huge. I would prefer something on the small and lightweight side. The trips I take will probably be 3 days maybe 4 max! THANKS!!!!

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Your inquiry should be under "Camping," since Yahoo! Answers does not have a hiking section.

You are in the range of 70 L to 90 L, with 70 L meeting your lightweight side of packing.

Go Lite Terrono 70 L.

On sale now, Go Lite Terrono 90 L, $99.

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Where can I get small children backpacks?

Devyn

some of my friends (we're teens) have small little children backpacks (like pikachus, cute little animal ones, etc) where can I get those?

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Amazon
Ebay
Kmart
Target
Kohls
Toys R Us

what is your opinion on child harnesses?

Jessica R

im just curious because i used one while taking care of my little cousin and now im gonna go out and get one for my son and my boyfriend says he doesnt want to use one because "its like treating him like hes a dog". i dont feel that its treating him like a dog its protecting him because he doesnt want to be held and he wont hold my hand or stay in a stroller so he will be happy and so will I. but im just curious about what other people think
to renee g, you make a very good point but my son is only a year old and he doesnt understand or care about anything that i tell him maybe when he is 2 or 3 he will listen but right now i would rather that he didnt pull a tantrum in the middle of a store because he wont hold my hand

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my oldest daughter is all most 6 an I started using the harness when she was about a year i used the stuffed animal/backpack one. I strapped it to her then looped it around my arm and held her hand. So i could teach her to hold hands with out worrying if she would pull away and run off or if i let go for a second she couldn't take off then. it was a cute little puppy so it didn't upset her to wear it. then 2 years later i used one with my 2nd daughter, and am now 2 years after that i am still using one with my 23month old daughter. and in a year when my 3month old son is walking I will use one with him. at about 3 you don't really need it any more. and if you get the one with the stuffed monkey or dog they can keep it as a toy. you can buy them at walmart/target/or babys(and)toysrus.

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Which is more fun, camping or backpacking?

Q. I have the opportunity to do both but I can't decide.
I've been camping before in my backyard but never backpacking.
I am confused. It's a joke.

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Car camping is easier and takes less effort, but it can be a lot of fun. Usually you go to places where you can drive to nearby attractions or other activities. Personally, if I'm with a bunch of friends, I prefer car camping. We get to hang out more, do fun stuff like swim, play volleyball or sit around a campfire.

Backpacking is a more focused experience. It's less about the destination (though destinations can be great) and more about the journey. It's a lot of work, because you have to carry everything you need, but it's that work that people find rewarding. Putting one foot in front of the other becomes a sort of meditation in motion. I like backpacking alone or with 1-2 people.

For me, life becomes very simple and straightforward when you're backpacking. You focus on your surroundings, the weather, how far you have left to travel that day. You are forced to remember that food is an energy source, it's what gives you the fuel to keep going, not just something you stuff your face with because your tummy is rumbling. You get to connect with the simple and primitive side of humanity. My body might be a little sore at the end of a trip, but it always feels great and my mind is refreshed as well.

backpacking and camping?

Dempsey

Im taking a backpacking trip this year and Id like to know a few tips about what to bring and Id also like to know what difference there is between backpacking campsites and normal ones.

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The difference between a backpacking camp and a normal one is a backpacking camp doesn't have anything, sometimes there will be a fire ring.

Check into freeze-dried food, you can save a lot of weight and most of it is easy to prepare, just boil water and add to the bag, no dishes. The most comprehensive site I have found is called wildernessdining.com, they sell products from many different manufacturers. I prefer Mountain House, but they all have some good meals. I suggest buying some ahead of time, sampling it, experiment with adding to the meals. There's nothing worse than finding out you really don't like dinner when there is nothing else to eat.

Another place to save weight is in your gear, saving weight means spending money, in most cases the lighter it is the more it is going to cost. I've been backpacking for many years and I am still trying to make my pack lighter. If you take something on a trip and you don't use it, does it need to go next time?

While backpacking you are always trying to strike the balance between weight and comfort. I go to great extremes to save a few ounces anywhere I can and then I carry an aluminum chair so I don't have to sit on rocks and logs around camp.

It's all very individual and will depend on you. I do a couple of trips a year with a group of guys and some of them are carrying packs twice as heavy as the other guys. They are carrying stuff the other guys don't have any problem doing without.

Good Luck and have a good time!

Over 35 years backpacking experience, more than a 1,000 nights in the back country.

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How much to save to backpack europe?

vickivalen

Backpack europe for 3 months maybe less. How much is good to save??

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It will depend on exactly where you start from, where you go, exactly when you visit, how long you stay, the accommodations you use and what you see/do/eat. People who backpack around Europe generally can get by for $100 per day staying in cheap hostels and carefully watching their budget (not including airfare); 3 months would require around $9000. However, if you stay in hotels, it will cost you more. I usually spend 100 to 150 euro a night for a hotel. Prices really depend on exactly where you come from, when you visit, how you get around and what you see/do/eat.

Here are some resources that can help you plan and check options and current prices for your trip (expect prices in the future to rise):

http://www.kayak.com/ - airfares & hotels; the explore function is useful for finding the less expensive places to fly into from your starting point. Tuscany is an entire region, not a town. The most convenient airports to fly into will be Pisa or Florence, but Rome or Bologna are also reasonable options.

http://www.skyscanner.it/ - particularly good for budget flights within Europe, but you can also use everywhere as a destination to do something like the explore option on Kayak. You may not need the airfares, but you can compare to the cost of the trains to get around. this one may be more useful for you. Palermo is a long trip by train, Naples to Palermo is one leg of the trip where you might consider flying.

http://www.seat61.com/ . This includes a huge amount of information on train travel throughout Europe - much more than there is room for in an answer here. The site has links to the various national train websites where you can find schedules and prices for trains. It also includes detailed descriptions of railpasses. This will tell you how to determine whether a railpass is worth the money for your trip (in Italy where I live railpasses are almost never worth the cost), which railpass to get, and how to use the railpass. There's also information on what to avoid in particular places.

Driving can be expensive; fuel prices, tolls and parking all add up, but it can become cost effective for groups. You can check sites like Avis, Europcar, Sixt, etc, for your specific rental cost. Picking up in one country and dropping off in another can be very expensive. You can get driving distances and estimates fuel and toll costs on viamichelin: http://www.viamichelin.com/ .
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http://www.venere.com/ - hotels/B&Bs - prices for the same hotel can vary hugely depending on the season and what local events are going on.

http://www.hostelbookers.com/ - hostels.

http://www.monasterystays.com/ - monasteries & convents that offer accommodations

You can also look into camping or couch surfing as cheaper alternatives for accommodations.

http://www.whatsonwhen.com/sisp/index.ht⦠- festivals, exhibitions and events

http://www.backpackeurope.com/ - information & advice

For sightseeing prices: check the websites for entrance fees for the museums & galleries you're interested in. I spend anywhere between nothing and 40 euro a day depending on exactly what I go to see when out exploring. For food, I spend around 25 to 50 euro for a meal, but you can eat for less. When I travel, I like to try the local specialties and the good restaurants. Shopping depends entirely on you.

What are some good tips for getting through an airport faster?

Bri S

I will be taking my first flight in October and I have only the slightest idea of what the hell I am doing, and if you have ever been through the Huntsville International Airport in Alabama it would be great if you could tell me how to get through it. THANKS!! :)

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Sounds like your are going to Space Camp.

Several tips, I hope they help. I do apologize for the length. I'll assume you've never been in airport. Remember traveling is adventure-it both an art as well as science.

1) a) Look on your airlines website and see when they suggest you arrive at your departing airport. Remember the people are put on the plane 20-30 minutes before departure time. Departure time, is just that, the time the jetty is rolled back from the sealed aircraft and the engines are started. That means if you get to the gate at departure time-you be staring at the wrong side of a closed cockpit door.

b) Google the aiport you are departing from. The airport's website as well as sites such as IFLY.com will also have a recommendation for how early to get to airport. While your are there glance at how the airport is laid out and where you airline's check-in counter and gates typically are.

c) Take the longest estimate of the above and add thirty minutes. Add addtional time if the Department of homeland security has set airports to either a threat level of "High" or "Severe".

d) Do not use your additional time to park and walk to terminal. I mean for you to be standing at check-in counter at that time--not just pulling into the airport.

2) Plan ahead and print out your boarding passes as soon as your airline and your daily schedule permit you to. This is typically 24-hours prior to departure time. Print out at least two copies so if you forget one somewhere you have a handy spare.

3) If possible pay for you checked bags ahead of time. Print out the reciept (again at least two copies) and have them handy. The wieght limit on bags on most airlines is fifty pounds. Shoot for 45.

4) Use the "One bag there...two bags back" method. Try to go there with only one bag and your carry on. I always carry a folded up "sea bag" (I was in the navy. Sea bags are large heavy green canvas duffels with backpack straps that can fold up to about 1/2inch by 13inches by 15 inches) in my luggage. I put my dirty clothes in there while I am at my destination. My clean clothes stay clean and now I have an empty suitcase for all the stuff I pick up while I on vacation.

5) Make and list and organize your stuff carefully. Even something as silly and turning your blue jeans inside out and folding them saves room in a suitcase. Check out this site and experiment if your don't believe me. http://www.history.navy.mil/library/online/uniform_fold.htm

6) Make your carry on meets the size standards for your airline. Also make sure it light enough and manuveerable enough to sprint across the airport. Always have "tomorrow's change of clothes" in your carry on. Keep your identity documents, prescriptions, and tolietries in your carry on. The TSA has rules on how ounces of liquids (shampoo etc) you can have in your carry one. http://www.tsa.gov/311/index.shtm Make sure you do not have any prohibited items in your carry on bag. http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/prohibited/permitted-prohibited-items.shtm

7) You are not allowed to carry soda through security. It is a liquid and they won't allow it (there are exceptions for contact lens solution and baby formula etc). There is NO rule against carrying a empty water bottle. My wife and I bought one liter plastic kegs at Wal-mart. They security no questions asked. We fill them at the water fountain on the other side of security and either make tea or lemonade.

8) Laptops and CPAP machines must be physically inspected. So able to break those out for the TSA guys at the check point. Don't bury it deep in your carry on.

9) Wear comfy shoes that can be taken off quickly at the check point. Also ditto for any belts you like to wear.

10) After you check your bags, dump all keys, cell phones, coins, and any other metal items into you carry on bag. This prevents you from having to do it at the security check point.

11) Ensure all luggage, purses, laptops, have a luggage tag on them. The airlines have them at the counter when you check or if you want a fancy one you can get them at Wal-mart.

12) If you have to connect to another flight, look at that airports website or map. Know the general lay out of it. For example if you are flying from Providence, RI to Huntsville, AL on NWA-you'll change planes in Detriot, MI. You can go the NWA website or the airport's website and get a glimspe of what is where.

So here's the process in brief. The week before you leave, make list of things you need and use that list to pack your one checked bag (goes under plane) and your one carry on (stays with you). Your carry on should have a snack, an empty plastic water bottle, a change of clothes and everything you need for 24-48 hours after you arrive. (If you bags get left behind, you can wait for the airline to reroute them to you.) If you are carrying a purse and/or laptop purge them of TSA prohibited items. The day before your flight pay your fee fo

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what to bring camping?

Bob

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1st aid
fire starter
multi tool/knife/machete/hatchet
backpack
tent
sleeping bag
sleeping pad
rain gear (for you and your pack)
pillow
stove
mess kit
bug spray
bug bite cream
towel
bandannas (bring 3, you'll use them)
toilet paper
garbage bags
water purifier
water bottles/containers
cloths (for both warm and cooler weather, you never know)
flashlight/head lamp/lantern
maybe bear spray
X batteries
food/snacks/drink mix/coffee
soap
And a nice backpack to hold it all.

Camping Ideas for Couples?

Katie S

Me and my boyfriend are going camping and we need some fun activities to do. Any great ideas? We don't have any kids and we are in our early 20's. Let me know

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Camping is a vague word, seeing as it could mean as little as pulling up a camper into a lot and partying all night to roughing it out in the wilderness with limited supplies for a few days, so I'll just say what I recommend for a couple in their prime years.

Depending on where you live (I'm assuming the United States), you can pick one of the country's many national parks ranging from the desert landscape of The Joshua Tree National Monument to the forest of the Great Smokey Mountains. Your best friend for finding a place to go is most certainly a local outdoors/backpacking store such as Apex Outdoors. The employees generally have much experience and often go on sponsored trips, so they generally serve as the ultimate resource. I myself have gotten to know people who work at some stores nearby and they give the best recommendations and preparation around. The internet is also useful.

I am 18, and for spring break this year I went with two of my friends to The Great Smokey Mountains for a 4 day backpacking trip. Besides a small hike I went on with a friend earlier that year in hunting territory, that is the only experience I have had. It was without a doubt the single most exciting and englightening experience of my life, and I highly recommend that you take advantage of your age and position and experience something similar. With a family you can go pitch a tent in a campsite whenever you desire and have fun with your kids. When it's just you and your friend, you are only dependent on yourself and don't have to look out for anybody else.

It sounds ridiculous but a week long trip to a good location to spend a few days in the wilderness will change your life for the better. The freedom and solitude of the wild will make you appreciate life more and obtain a totally new perspective. Not only that, but doing something like that with your boyfriend will more than likely improve the connection you share by getting through such an experience together. It's not something you can do very often once you settle down, so it's best to do it before it's too late.

As far as preparation goes, it's much cheaper than most vacations (with gas prices these days you really can't tell though). You can rent or purchase a backpack (to buy one it costs anywhere from $100-$150 for a decent one). You must also purchase backpacking-specific compact gear, like sleeping bags ($50), tents (anywhere from $40-$100, depends on what you want), bedrolls or backpacking mattress ($40), and sleeping bag lining (probably around $10). Then you will need to purchase other necessities:

A small gas burning grill to cook food or boil water.
Metal cups and utensils for eating.
Something to light fires with.
Rain gear.
Good backpacking socks (talk to a salesman).
Hiking boots (a must have, you might think you can make it with sneakers, trust me, it sucks, don't try it).
A decent knife.
Lots of Nalgene bottles that will fit your water filter. Used for keeping cooking water and drinking.
Food (trail mix, beef jerky, or you can buy a book that teaches you how to make your own dry meals).
A bag to tie your food into trees with to prevent bears from getting it at night.
A first aid kit.
And most importantly, a water filter. Don't underestimate the environment, no matter where you are, you will ALWAYS need a water filter. It's good for when you can't boil water due to rain or just need a quick fill, and it will prevent you from getting amoebas and bacteria. Remember that rivers form from run-off, and with run-off comes animal feces.

To prepare physically, go for walks or runs three times a week for at least 30 minutes. Make sure you stretch so that your muscles become toned. Go for a practice hike for a night in a nearby park or even in your backyard if you have woods. Keep in mind that you will have 20-40 pounds of gear on your back when you climb. Read some books or look online about fire building and familiarize yourself with all your equipment, using the bathroom in the woods, and dealing with animals.

It sounds like a ton of work, but it is so incredibly worth it. It's something you'll never forget or regret.

If this isn't your cup of tea, oh well, but it's just what I recommend. Best of luck to you!

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What should i take on a camping trip?

Ryan Rusty

Looking for an experienced hiker/camper to make a checklist for me or a link to a checklist for overnight camping trips. Ive been in the woods a good bit doing day hikes using hydration packs but ive finally bought myself a real hiking back pack and want to do some more serious hikes, 10 - 20 miles over the coarse of a few days. Also, looking for items that a person wouldn't think of taking on a trip that tends to be very useful. I live in Western Montana and most of the elevations are above 5000ft all the time, Just wanna make sure i'm gonna survive out there when i really go into the wild. Thanks in advance.

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Check out this site:

http://www.backpacking.net/ten-essl.html

I can't get to my gear list right now as my PDA is caput.. but you
NEED the 10 essentials, and I would include garbage bags
to keep stuff not-wet and to be able to take out trash.

Use your brain...don't expect somebody from the internet
will be a useful source of info...all I can say is try to think of
ways to keep your gear dry, take enough non-cotton clothes
to cover you, and invest in a killer sleeping bag.

I'm a flat-lander and have hiked/camped alot (for over 40 years) but don't have experience in your situation.
have any camping experience where you're located at...

Best way to figure out if your gear works is to "camp out" in your
back-yard...no problems if something screws up, just pack it in
and go to sleep in your bed. If you don't have a backyard, find a friend
that does...you really need to "try" your gear out before you use it in
the field.

I know this doesn't answer your original question, but getting a gear list
is easy in this internet age, knowing what to do with it, and how it works with how you camp is another question, and I believe that was
the question you really wanted to ask, and I still haven't answered it
fully...

Remnant

I'm going to camp. What should I bring?

NJRoadie

I have a general idea but I want to know the specifics.
I'm having a outdoor sleepover with my girlfriends.

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These are my check lists, i hope you can make use of it...

Gear Checklist: Mountaineering
Clothing
Outerwear
waterproof/breathable jacket
waterproof/breathable pants
insulated parka
fleece jacket or wool sweater
fleece pants
waterproof gaiters
synthetic hiking pants
synthetic shorts
Base Layer
midweight long john top
midweight long john bottoms
long sleeve T-shirt
synthetic briefs
synthetic sports bra
synthetic T-shirt
Accessories
wool or fleece hat
balaclava
midweight wool or fleece gloves
synthetic liner gloves
waterproof overmitts
Footwear
waterproof hiking boots
camp footwear
wool or synthetic socks (3)
liner socks (2)
Extras
sun hat
bandanna
single long whistle: stop
two whistles: resume hiking
three whistles: emergency

Gear
trekking poles
white gas stove and fuel bottles
lighter and waterproof matches
cookset
eating utensils, bowl, and insulated mug
headlamp w/extra batteries and bulb
32 oz. water bottles (2)
water bottle parkas (2)
water treatment (filter, tablets, or drops)
pocket knife or multitool
compass
sunglasses
first-aid kit with personal medications
chemical heat packs
stuff sacks
assorted zipper-lock bags
bear-bagging rope (or canister)
insect repellent
mesh head net or suit
sunscreen (SPF 15+)
lip balm (SPF 15+)
toilet paper and trowel
pee bottle

Hiking-Mountaineering-Camping Checklist
Target Weight for fully-loaded pack ("every ounce counts!"):
<20 pounds: summer up to 3 overnights
<30 pounds: winter up to 3 overnights

Clothing
hiking boots
socks (2 pair; wool/synthetic, not cotton)
sock liners (personal preference)
long pants
shorts (or zip-off pants)
t-shirt (2; synthetic, not cotton)
underwear (2; synthetic, not cotton)
long sleeve shirt
camp shoes (e.g. sandals)
hat (wool for winter)
bandana

Hiking Gear
backpack
webbing/straps for attaching gear to backpack
trekking or ski poles
whistle
Dog Gear
water bottle
Food
towel/blanket for sleeping
brush

shovel

Camping Gear/shared
tent or tarp/ground cover
camp stove
fuel for camp stove (incl backup)
matches (waterproof)
cooking utensils (pot/pan)
water filter
Iodine tablets
watch with altimeter and/or GPS
clothes line
duct tape
multi-tool (e.g. Fisherman's)
camera
cell phone
2-way radios (only if expecting to split groups)
bear spray
Food/shared
dinner (freeze-dried, e.g. pasta, sauce)
breakfast (e.g. oatmeal)
coffee (instant) & creamer
Personal Items
sunglasses
medicines (cold, aspirin, etc)
sleeping aid (e.g. Xanax)
First aid (bandaids, polysporin, needle)
toiletries (tooth brush/paste)
moleskin
knife/scissors (e.g. small Swiss Army)
towel (small, quick-dry)
ear plugs/eye shield
sunscreen (SPS 15+)
Lip balm (SPS 15+)
bug repellant
toilet paper (with extra zip-lock bag)
wipes
map
compass
book
flashlight/headlamp w/ extra batteries
mirror (for signaling)

Camping Gear/individual
sleeping bag (down; light/compressible)
sleeping pad
eating utensils (bowl, mug, spoon)
garbage bag
emergency space blanket
camp chair
pillow case (use filled with clothes)
Food/individual
water bottles/bladder (bladder not when below freezing)
electrolyte replacement (Cytomax, Gatorade)
trail mix or power bars
beef jerky or dried steak nuggets
Lunch (e.g. sandwich)
Medical/shared
medical gloves
SAM splint
Benedryl (for allergic reactions)
Sawyer Extractor (for bites/stings)
Tincture of benzoin (skin disinfectant)
Bloodstopper (to control bleeding)
Roll tape
triangular bandages (cravats)
4"x4" sterile dressing
CPR shield
single long whistle: stop
two whistles: resume hiking
three whistles: emergency

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Would it be weird for a 9th grader to wear this?

fishy

Alright, so I'm a freshman in highschool and I need a new backpack. Personally, I think this one is great and that it would be cute in a joke-y way if I used it:
http://www.hottopic.com/hottopic/Clearance/Dickies-Dinosaur-Backpack-238401.jsp
my mother, however, thinks it's stupid. Who do you agree with?

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Okay...I'm sure you were hoping for answers from other kids and not moms...but I have one son in middle school and one daughter who is a senior - so I've seen the gamut when it comes to friends / trends / etc. Now, I mean this is the nicest way...but I think the real the only question you should be asking is do YOU like it? Trendsetters don't wait to see what other people are going to do or say...they don't care. If you wear this to school, I guarantee that SOMEONE will find something snotty to say...and someone else will think it's cute, especially if you wear your clothes and accessories with confidence. When someone says they don't like something of yours, shrug and say, "Well I like it" and walk off. After awhile, other freshmen (a.k.a frosh) especially will really start to respect that independence, even if they don't admit it openly. People gravitate towards strong personalities. Does your mom genuinely not like it or is she just worried you'll get teased? I personally love anything different...not EVERYTHING different all at once (that just gets weird) but just some unique stuff thrown in. I think the backpack is cute and that the black is going to wear well, too (but that's probably another mom thing) lol. Either way, good luck in high school! I hope it's as fun as it can be (considering it's the dreaded "school") :oP

i want to know the name of an old tv show.?

Ryan

There was an old tv show that i wached and now i think its off. So these kids/teens went to school and after or during school they went into a computer type game thing and faught evil. this girl had a backpack and inside was a computer type dinosaur that faught with her. THIS IS NOT CODE LEOKO. Then she met more people that faought with her. I do not know the name of this show or were its from i think cartoon network but i do not know. Real people were the actors i think. and in the game was gameish fighters. so sorry but thats all that i can remember.

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My son remembers that show. He couldn't remember the real name but doesn't think it was on the 'cartoon' network.
More like Nickelodeon or the Kids Network.
Try searching their web sites and give them the same information as you put here.
Someone will remember.
Good luck.

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What things in life do you think are a must for kids to experience?

plastic

I can't link stuff or it won't show my question but on yahoo shine, they have a list of 8 things:
being part of a team, camping, chores, snow, farm life, a lemonade stand, flying a kite and bowling. I agree with all of those but what other things would you add?

I wanna add: catching lightening bugs, flashlight tag, slip and slides, hula hooping, root-beer floats, easter egg hunts, owning and adding to a piggy bank, learning to play at least one mario game! and the beach.
off for a bit- so no thumbs down from me. will read answers later! thanks. :)

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Those all sound pretty good. What would I add? Hmm...

--Play a musical instrument for at least one year.
--Play with just dirt and sticks outside.
--Break a bone and/or getting stitches once.
--Care for a pet.
--Deal with the death of a pet.
--Ride a mega roller-coaster.
--Hop-scotch, four-square, hide-and-seek, and other old-school, low-tech, outdoor games.
--Church, at least at the lily-and-poinsettia times. (Even atheists often take their kids to church. It's a cultural thing, even if you're not the religious type.)
--Fix a friendship that was on the rocks for some reason.
--Take a few things apart (toys, electronics).
--Break something and have to pay to fix it.
--Museums, zoos, and theme parks.
--Travel outside their own state (It's amazing how many kids have never traveled much at all! I know money is a major factor, but still...)
--Saturday morning cartoons.
--Sleepovers.
--Footie pajamas.
--Work a huge jigsaw puzzle.
--Board games with family.
--Make cookies from scratch.
--Try "disgusting" foods every now and then: broccoli, brussel sprouts, calamari, etc. (Adult favorites)
--Get caught in a major lie.
--Do volunteer work.
--Go to at least one baseball game, football game, and basketball game-- pro or university.
--Save up for something big.
--Rolling down a hill.
--Sled/tobaggan down a snowy hill.
--Build a snowman/snowcreature/snowfort.
--Give homemade gifts/cards to mom and dad.
--Spend a weekend with just the grandparents.
--See mom and dad cry at least once each.
--Build a sand castle.
--Build a mini-dam in a creek.
--Catch lizards, frogs, etc. (I did-- it's not just a boy thing. Actually, my elementary school had frog-jumping contests every year on field day, and you had to catch an entrant.)
--Get teased/mocked by a bully at least once.
--Stand up for a friend who's being teased at least once.
--Be excluded from a group at least once.
--Go on a hike.
--Get seriously sunburned to the point of blisters at least once.
--Plant something and watch it grow.
--Water-gun/water-balloon/hose fight!
--Run through sprinklers.
--Climb a tree.
--Repair the chain on a bicycle.
--Wipe out on the bike at least once and get road rash.
--Rollerskate/blade.
--Forget backpack at home at least once, and NOT have parents rescue you.
--Lose something important, like money or expensive things.
--Get an A.
--Get an F.
--Jump out of a swing.
--Hang upside down from monkey bars/jungle gym.

I could probably keep going, but I'll just stop. :)
Some of mine seem negative, like getting injured or having to deal with mistakes, but that's how we learn. It's important for kids to have many DIVERSE experiences as well as some negatives that they can learn from. Cheers! And thanks for the trip down memory lane this morning! ;)

Why do kids try to dress like rappers?

flonkas

You have seen it. Long tee shirts that go below your knees. jeans where you have to walk funny in order to keep them from falling. 200 dollar jordans that you have to keep wiping a little dirt spot from them every 2 seconds. a hat pointed a funny way. dora the exploer backpacks and power rangers. It all looks ridiculus. Rappers arent good people anyway with all the gang violence and putting down women.. Why do people act like that?

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haha your question made me laugh! ive always wondered this. i graduated a few years ago and now my sister is getting ready to start high school! im worried, all these wannabe thugs walkin around. its ridiculous! rappers arent bad people, but these kids should really be making their own image. its a popularity thing. my ex i swear had a hundred pairs of jordan's and he didnt even play basketball! just wanted to look cool. its STUPID! and the parents, let them dress like that... come on now.

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External frame backpack for kayak camping?

darylann

I originally posted this in "Outdoor Recreation," but decided it should probably be here in "Camping" instead...?

I'm planning several kayak camping adventures this summer, from overnight to about 4-5 days. There will be some portaging involved, and I saw somewhere how an external frame backpack can be utilized cleverly to portage a kayak above your head with minimal strain to shoulders and back. But I'm wondering how cumbersome such a backpack would be to stash inside the kayak while paddling. I'll be padding to different locations each day, so don't have the option of just leaving it behind at camp for the day. I'll be solo mostly, so need to make sure I'm planning for the most efficient way to travel & pack. Should I consider buying an external frame backpack? Suggestions?

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here are some links that I have seen some nice things on. Check them out.

http://www.rei.com/product/722859

http://www.outdoorplay.com/store/Product.asp?DID=140&PDID=12&SKU=ADB_SSNEW

http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/601-8333643-4328133?ASIN=B0008DBPA8&AFID=Froogle&LNM=B0008DBPA8|Pelican_Kayak_Deck_Bag&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=B0008DBPA8&ref=tgt_adv_XSG10001

http://www.rutabaga.com/product.asp?pid=1001548

Looking for some advice on backpacking?

TripHazard

I'm heading out on a backpacking trip for 6 weeks. I'm traveling via train mostly; however, I'm taking my bike with me. In addition, I'll be staying in mostly hostels. I'm heading east from Denver up to the northeast and into Canada ending up in Seattle. I plan on taking a lightweight sleeping bag, but heard hostels sometimes don't allow them? Are there anything I should be aware of? Things to bring? Not to bring?

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I took a bike tour from Amsterdam to Sweden one year and here's my advice:
Think WATERPROOF EVERYTHING !!!!! It think you'll be traveling through some rainy places.
Get shoes with Gore Tex, (or similar waterPROOF breathable membrane)
Everything as lightweight as possible. If you're staying in hostels ask in advance what they require. You might not need a puffy sleeping bag unless you're camping; if you want take a lightweight down filled bag.They fold smaller then polyfills.. You could take a polyester fleece sleeping sack like the one I bought at a Target or Kmart for about $9.99. It can unzip into a sheet or zip together like a sleeping bag, and it folds or rolls up very small.
Or just take a sheet or a twin sized duvet cover. If hostels are that strict, do you really want to stay with them?
I took a small 2 person tent, kept it in my bike bags, and used it some, but the problem was RAIN. Put things like clothes and papers inside plastic bags, and don't think
Water-resistant is anywhere near WaterPROOF. Good thing nowadays waterproof doesn't only mean heavy rubber. The tent's rain cover I put over the stuff inside my bike bag as more waterproof protection, but a plastic poncho is good too, then you can use it to sit on for your picnic in a dewy field..
I also recommend being ready for serious heat if you're traveling in USA or even Canada in Summer. COOLMAX will serve you better than cotton t-shirts, Fishing shirts have mesh inside that keep you cool and they have all kinds of pockets that velcro shut. Get one of those. And nylon shorts and lightweight cargo shorts are better than jean shorts. Fleece is lighter than leather, wool, or cotton sweats. You'll need something for cool times, so a fleece jacket and a goretex rain jacket should be enough. Get some athletic sandals that strap on and are very comfortable to walk in. Protect your eyes. lips and skin from the blazing sun!!
Buy a seat cushion if you'll be biking more than a few hours, and bike shorts with padding. If you're city biking, have a good lock and stash your panniers in the hostel.
Finally, I recommend some black nylon pants that have Goretex (or similar) and are waterproof. The ones I have look normal enough to pass for black slacks at night.
They also have a kind of mesh inside that keeps you cool and keeps the pants from sticking to your legs even if it is raining. And the Goretex blocks the wind, so they're the perfect pants for travel.
And, they have zipper pockets and hidden pockets that are great when you're traveling to keep things safe.
When you sit on a wet park bench you're cooly doesn't get wet. And they almost never get dirty and if they do you just shower them off and they dry fast. You can find them online or in stores or catalogs that sell camping and outdoor gear and clothing.
PACK lite!!!!! Leave the economy size shampoo and gel at home. Take along some old clothes like socks, undies, and tshirts ready to throw away, and as they get dirty throw them away. When you get rid of them, buy some new ones. It's time anyway, isn't it? And it'll be almost as cheap as running your old holy ones through a laundromat.

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Where should I buy backpacking supplies?

Eric

This August I went on a 1 week backpacking trip on the Superior Hiking Trail in Minnesota. I loved it, and have started "vague" plans for two more trips. The thing is that most of my supplies were rented.
I need a place to buy a pack, water filter, a lightweight tent(we had some that couldn't have been more than 4lbs).
I was planning on going to Cabela's, but after reading some of their frame pack reviews, I'm not sure if it's the best place to go. I just want to see if there are other good places or websites.

Also if there is anything that it seems I'm missing, that would be great to know.
I've got a sleeping bag, sleeping pad, mess kit, and good hiking boots(now broken in...)
haha, if I ever end up taking a flight to anywhere like that I'll keep it in mind, but I'd love something a little closer to Wisconsin...

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Great question! If budget is not a consideration then REI or a local back country outfitter is a good choice. If budget is an issue there are some items that you can save a lot of money by shopping around. For example, long underwear (polypro - synthetic - no cotton) is usually 50 percent less at a military supply store. Stay away from cotton.

To save money and weight I recommend using a chemical water treatment system rather than a pump. I hiked 3,000 miles one season (CDT) and used bleach only. Never got sick. However I recommend Aqua Mira. Google the name and you'll find it. I now use it and it doesn't make the water taste like a swimming pool. NOLS also often uses it on mountain expeditions - great stuff!

I bought my pack from ULA Gear. They are a small shop located in Utah. You can often reach the owner. The packs are light and very durable. They are also reasonably priced and you'll get special attention you may not get at the larger stores. They sent me a pack to try out for fit that I used on a week long trip before purchasing one for my 5 month hike.

4lbs isn't bad for tent weight. If you want to go lighter consider a tarp or "tarp-tent". Google Henry Shires and tarp tents to learn more. These are about half the weight. Depending on the weather conditions, your preferences and how big it needs to be a tarp or tarp tent might be a good fit for you. Currently I use a 3 season MSR hubba - it's a one person tent and weighs less than 3lbs with the fly.

For the mess kit - I learned a lot on my long hike. I actually stopped carrying everything but the stove, fuel, one pot with a lid (titanium) and a spoon. I found no need for more gear. I've found downsizing my gear makes for a much more pleasant experience. I'm not an "ultra light" hiker but I would consider myself light.

Finally, "thru hiking" sites and forums are great places for advice. These are communities of people that hike the big national scenic trails. CDT, PCT and AT --- there are often discussions about gear. Below are some resources.

Happy trails!

My mom ordered me a girls backpack...Is it noticeable?

qwertyuiop

I'm a guy and I was wanting a canvas military style backpack. She showed me this one and I liked it, so she ordered it. I was reading reviews later and found out it was a girls backpack. Do you think anyone will be able to tell?

http://www.quiksilver.com/product/index.jsp?productId=11193334

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to be honest, i wouldn't know it it was a girls backpack. the only thing i suggest is that you remove the tassel/braid things on the zippers of the side pockets. Do that and you are all good :)

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International travel with a child.?

Q. I am looking at taking my family to Japan. Do you think a 3 year old will be ok to take on the flight? Any advice on how to keep her entertained. If it matters she would almost be 3 and a half year old when we leave.

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I'm a former Flight Attendant and I now fly a lot now internationally with my own three children.

Three and half is a *great age* to travel with a child. They're not as much work and can start to appreciate their surroundings. Flying without diapers and bottles is another plus (although a nighttime one might be in order if she's still not night-trained).

Japan is a great place to take children. I used to work a lot of flights there and I have traveled in Japan on my own several times, although all before I had my babies.

Not only is Japan very clean but the people are very child-friendly, helping with strollers and letting parents go first on to trains, etc. In fact, there were even *warnings* in my tour books not to scold your own children too much in public, risking someone in public coming to your child's defense. They have a strict "Let children be children" philosophy and what would be considered misbehaving in western countries is considered normal or even "cute" over there.

On the airplane, to entertain her, I have found less is more. Avoid toys that make noise and go for coloring and craft projects she can do in a small space. No one minds if you read books to her. Stickers, play dough and pipe cleaners are hits at this age. Just as a tip, make sure it's relatively new play dough. I took some that I found in a closet on a flight and it crumbled and made a huge mess on the airplane!

I do what my own mom did and give my kids a new toy once on board. It doesn't have to be big and fancy. Any of the above mentioned will work. If she likes legos, Polly Pockets or Pet Shops, you can buy small accessories for them. I usually buy a children's magazine or coloring book.

You keep the toys and dole them out during the flight.

Before leaving, have her pack her own backpack with her favorite toys. Limit her to one or two stuffed animals (one of my daughters would bring 13 if I let her). Check it yourself. Girls are usually okay but some boy's toys might not be welcomed in security. The only banned items are things that look like, or can be used as weapons. You will also want to watch for noisy toys. Remote controls are not allowed on board but she can bring the toy and the remote can be packed. Also, no breakables. You may want to discuss this ahead of time.

Make sure to bring snacks and at least one change of clothes. Even if she doesn't use a sippy cup, bring one for the flight to prevent spills.

If she plays any electronic games, you can bring those but make sure you either have spare batteries or they are fully charged before you leave home. Frustrating for children when they run down with a lot of flight time still and these items *usually* can't be recharged in flight (let's hope that changes in the future!)

When my youngest was about this age, we bought a portable DVD player. It is wonderful for long flights. If you have one, bring it and again, make sure it's fully charged. If the battery life is less than 4 or 5 hours, consider buying a second battery. I purposely bought one with 14 hours but like milage on cars, it doesn't last that long. Don't let her pause it (shut it completely off if she takes a break) and make sure to set it at "night" mode to save battery time.

Make it clear that is must be used with headphones. No playing it through the speakers.

You can present her with a new DVD as one of her surprise presents if you want. Bring the recharger with you in your carry-on (in case of a delay).

DVD's in Japan are probably not compatable. The DVD player is also convenient if she doesn't want to watch Japanese TV at friends' houses or in the hotel.

I have never used any medication to get my children to sleep. These are not harmless drugs and twice when I was working, I saw children have the *opposite* reaction to them. They became completely wired and wouldn't settle down. Don't give anything without talking to your doctor and trying it at home first. I honestly don't think it's necessary for a 3 1/2 year old, who are usually tired enough to sleep on their own at some point.

I just want to give you one more tip for the airport. Tell her that there will be lots of interesting people in the airport and make it clear that she is not to point or discuss them out loud. She can ask you specifics in private but even if they speak another language, they can certainly see her pointing and could understand whatever she's saying anyway. My kids have been to many countries and I still have to remind them of this.

About 8 years ago, I wrote an article on flying with children for an expat newsletter. Over the years many parents have contributed. I later put it on a blog so that parents had access to non-commercial information from someone with both practical and professional experience on the web.

A lot of it has to do with babies so you can skip those parts.
http://flyingwithchildren.blogspot.com

It also appeared recently on the Expat Women site;
http://www.expatwomen.com/mothers/flying_with_children.php

My kids love everything Japanese, even the food! This will be a wonderful adventure for her. Have a great trip!

A democrat from Mass has introduced a bill banning backpacks over a certain size...?

Bakersman

As a responsible backpack user, I am against this. I feel that if they ban backpacks, only criminals will wear backpacks. Your thoughts?
Probably a gram weenie whose real agenda is to push ultralight backpacking instead of someone truly interested in safety. Smaller backpack laws would not have prevented an incident like what happened in Boston.

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I think we should allow backpacks but make people register and complete a training course before they can purchase one. Also limit the number of backpacks a person can purchase at one time. I think this would be a fair compromise.

And keep them away from children! There is no reason for children to have access to backpacks!

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Fixed blade laws in Oregon?

rooney

I am planning a backpacking trip across the Oregon coast line and visiting some of the bigger city's like Portland and planning on carrying a large fixed blade. Is this illegal and am I likely to give crap from the local police?

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The same as everywhere , pretty much.

Which means if you carry a dirk on your belt, you're an idiot.
"large fixed blade" in the city limits is just a way to go to jail.

See the problem with such things is many cops have been camping and they know such knives aren't a necessity when camping, but are just fetish items.


Stick it deep in your pack unless you intend to get jail time, just like your hatchet. They can't charge you for a concealed weapon, when it's impossible to claim it's readily available.

Where and what should i do for my honeymoon?

Jake

I am getting married in June. My fiance left the honeymoon planning up to me. I am saving up money but with bills and life being expensive. I will only be able to spend $2000 for the entire honeymoon. For our honeymoon I would like it to be at least 4 days long. A maxium of 12 hours away or closer. We love outdoors (camping, fishing, hunting, hiking) but also enjoy visting new cities. I'd also like to do something fun during this time she will never forget. Something out of the norm. That will really make this honeymoon amazing for her other then me ha ha. So any suggestions would be awesome.

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Search your desires carefully. Are you really okay with a backpacking/camping honeymoon? Or do you expectâif only subconsciouslyâa luxury honeymoon with room service and only pleasant distractions?

For roughing it:
* Camp in SE Oregon, climb Steens Mountain, view the wild Kiger Mustang herd, soak in hot springs and rustic hot pools, wander the Hart Mountain Antelope Refuge, explore desolate Owyhee Canyon, drive/camp on Alvord Desert, hike in Oregon Badlands Wilderness (slightly east of Bend, on the way to/from SE Oregon). In June, it will be too early for backpacking in the Cascades.
* Hike the Oregon Coast Trail for a mix of nature and civilization. Restaurants, grocery, and motels are adequately distributed so you can rely on them most days. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Coast_Trail
* Rent a fire lookout from the Forest Service or BLM. Rustic accommodations, but with great views and surrounded by forest

For luxury:
* Rent a suite at Sunriver Lodge, Salishan, Timberline Lodge, Crater Lake Lodge, Tu Tu Ton Lodge (Rogue River), or a nice house at the coast. Outside Oregon, Skamania Lodge (in the gorge), Lake Quinalt Lodge in Olympic N.P., Deer Harbor Resort on Orcas Island, or Sooke Harbour House at the south tip of Vancouver Islandâawesome fresh foods.
* Hawaii, but June begins the busy and expensive season.
* I don't know if it can be reliably done for less than $2000, but luxury jungle or coastal accomodations, all inclusive, are available all over Central America: Belize, Honduran Islands like Roatan, and Mexico.

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legal to go survivor style camping?

Yormothers

Hi,

I have a camping trip planned out for summer with some friends. A couple of friends have introduced the idea of scraping our original camping plans and just doing a "survivor style" camping trip for three nights. This would serve not only as a personal challenge, but also as experience in an emergency situation. Should anything ever happen we wouldn't be new to survival situations and have some previous knowledge under our belt. We would be taking a small backpack only, with essentials like a knife, flint, and water canteens.

I know that in a real survival situation one would be legally able to do whatever it takes to survive (snares, fires, etc). But in this "mock" survival situation, is there any law against us using survival tactics to be there for three nights voluntarily? Is there a special permit or anything one needs to fill out beforehand or are we free to just go out and try it?

Thanks in advance for your answers.

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Hey, hope i can help . . . long time backpacker, minimalist, hocking hills college ranger student.
what state are you in??

Legally, your best bet would be to find a local / state / nation park that has backpack trails...they are usually free to camp on as long as you call ahead and they can email you a permit (or you might just need to sign a log at the "trail head").

As for FIRE concerns; go ahead and bring your flint/steel, as long as you contain it to something VERY small for cooking purposes. - best bet, spend $9 and get "ESBIT pocket stove" (or make something similar) - you can SAFELY and LEGALLY burn your tinder in here; or something similar.

SNARS... make all you want, be responsible and clean up after yourselves, make them small, if ya catch something - let it go or eat it (women hate when i say that but oh well).

SHELTER - don't cut down anything live...use dead material, especially if you are at a state park.

- following a few of these tips man can make your survival camping fun and you wont get yelled at by the dept of natural resources people - be safe, be accountable of your actions and things will be sweet. any questions let me know bro.

Matt

Where are good places to camp within driving distance of Akron, Ohio?

I'm looking for some good campgrounds within 1 - 5 hours distance from Akron or Northeast, Ohio in general. I do not want to camp in the kinds of places where you are right next to other campers and hillbillies drinking beer or screaming kids, I'm looking for the kind of place that offers some isolation and privacy.

Thanks

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What do you mean by "isolation and privacy?" Do you mean you don't want to see other tents or campers? Does it mean you don't want showers of bathrooms? Does it mean that you don't want electricity? If so, you'll probably have to do some hiking during the weekdays to find a walk-in, rustic site that isn't busy.

Mohican State Park and Memorial Forest near Mansfield may offer one of the easiest shots at what you're seeking.

http://backpackohio.com/mohican.html

Pennsylvania state parks in the Allegheny foothills are great for this purpose (see the "Pennsylvania Wilds" region at the link below), according to my backpacking friends.

http://www.dcnr.state.pa.us/stateparks/recreation/camping.aspx#cam15

Allegheny National Forest is particularly popular with backpackers as some primitive campgrounds are so remote that reservations aren't even accepted. Much of the National Forest, with certain restrictions, is available for camping, and it's beautiful.

http://naturetourism.allegheny.edu/hiking.html

http://www.fs.fed.us/r9/forests/allegheny/recreation/camping/

http://www.fs.fed.us/r9/forests/allegheny/recreation/

Primitive camping also is available in much of Ohio's Wayne National Forest, including the northwest unit in Ohio's popular and beautiful Hocking Hills, southeast of Columbus.

http://www.athensohio.com/whattodo/index.php?page=81&item=489

If you're not into primitive camping and want the amenities, but just don't want to be crammed into a standard campground, consider Bissell's just north of Niagara Falls, Ontario. This place is a special hit with kids, plus you have the nearby attractions of Niagara Falls. I haven't been there in over a decade, and now I believe you'll need U.S. passports.... When we were there, we could see other campers, but we were scores of feet away from them, perhaps because they weren't busy and we asked for privacy. Their one acre pool is more akin to a pond and swimming safety must be emphasized, especially if you allow kids into anything besides the kiddie pool.

http://www.bissellshideaway.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=19&Itemid=32

During weekdays, you might have lots of privacy in primitive campgrounds in some Ohio state parks. My hunch is that this may be the case at Malabar Farm State Park, near Mohican State Park, and not known for its small campground and overshadowed by neighboring Mohican. Call the park and ask!

http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/parks/parks/malabar/tabid/762/Default.aspx

http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/parks/parks/locatormap/tabid/726/Default.aspx

Consider getting a copy of the AAA Campground Guide.

BOL!!!

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what are the important things that one should carry on a backpacking trip?

Om N

backpacking India..

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So much has to do with what the weather will be like and where you will be camping. However, below is a general gear list for 3-season (not winter) backpacking for 1-2 people. This does not include food, which of course is extremely important.

CLOTHING: (Remember to bring clean clothes & shoes to leave in the car and change into after the hike is over.)

- Waterproof, Sturdy, Well Broken-In Hiking Boots/Shoes.
- 2 Pair Hiking Socks (NOT COTTON! Use Wool or Synthetic).
- 1-2 Pair Sock Liners (Coolmax, Silk, Capilene, etc.)
- 1 Short Sleeve Shirt (NOT COTTON! Use a Wicking Material like Coolmax, Capilene or Merino Wool)
- 1 Long Sleeve Shirt (NOT COTTON! Use a Wicking Material like Coolmax, Capilene or Merino Wool)
- 1 Pair Hiking Pants/Shorts (NO JEANS OR COTTON! The nylon zip-off styles are lightweight and versatile).
- Wicking Underwear/Sports Bra (NOT COTTON! Use Coolmax, Capilene, Merino Wool, etc.)
- Lightweight, Waterproof/Breathable Rain Jacket, Rain Pants or Poncho and (optional) Gaiters
- Light Hat with brim for sun/rain.
- Light Fleece Jacket or Vest (doubles nicely as a pillow!).
- Wicking Base Layers/Sleep Clothes (optional ;-)
- Sandals or Camp Shoes

EQUIPMENT/GEAR LIST: Try to keep your pack as light as possible â total of 25 to 30 lbs. including food and water. Use travel-size items and containers. Share some equipment (tents, water filters, stoves, etc.) to reduce weight.

PACK:
- Backpack. Capacity of 3,000 - 4,000 cubic inch, weighing 2 - 4 lbs. (internal frame) is good for a 2-4 day hike.
- Backpack Rain Cover. Heavy-duty trash bags also work (one on the inside of your pack and one on the outside).
- Waterproof Stuff Sacks or heavy-duty trash bags for keeping items dry inside your backpack.

SHELTER:
- Tent or Tarp (and Optional Ground Cloth). Use a 1- or 2-person tent with a total weight of 4 lbs or less. Your ground cloth/footprint should match the shape of and be slightly smaller than the floor of your tent. Pack tent poles separately to compress the tent as small as possible.

- Sleeping Bag. Prefer weight of 2 lbs or less and rated to approx. 32F degrees. Check the forecast to see if you want to go lighter/heavier. Carry sleeping bag in a waterproof compression sack or one covered by a large garbage bag.

- Sleeping Pad. To insulate you from the cold ground. Prefer weight of around 1 lb.

KITCHEN/COOKING GEAR:
- Stove, Fuel, Windscreen, Matches/Lighter. Try to fit your stove and/or fuel fit into your cook pot. Alcohol stoves are lightest and least expensive â Caldera Cone highly recommended. Canister stoves are fairly lightweight too.

- Cook Pot (No larger than 1 liter, weighing 8 oz. or less), Cup, Cutlery/Spork (Lexan recommended)

- Water Purification System â water filter, chlorine dioxide, iodine, etc. (tablets are much lighter!)

- Water Bottles or Bladder to hold 2 â 3 Liters (Bladders are light and easy to drink from. Or use 1 Qt. Gatorade bottles)

SAFETY/SURVIVAL:

- Headlamp or Small Flashlight and extra batteries.
- Plastic Whistle
- Map and Compass
- Small Pocket Knife or Multi-Tool
- First Aid Kit (Bandages, moleskin/blister kit, antibacterial ointment, pain killers, antacid, sting relief, etc.).
- Duct Tape (for repairs and hot spots/blisters)

PERSONAL ITEMS: (Use travel sized containers. Do not bring large bottles and/or tubes.)

- Extra Plastic Garbage Bags & Zip-loc Bags. Small and large - for garbage, wet items and disposing of used toilet paper where there is no privy. Used toilet paper does not belong in the wilderness.

- Small Digging Tool/Trowel for digging waste holes if no privies are available. (MontBell Scoop, Sea to Summit iPood are good products)

- Toiletries. Including toothbrush/toothpaste, small roll of toilet paper, biodegradable soap, earplugs, and any personal medicines. Women should double-bag feminine hygiene products.

- Bandana or small Camp Towel

- Sunglasses and Sunscreen (travel size)

- Lip Balm/Chap Stick

- Insect Repellant (travel size) and/or Head net

EXTRAS:

- Hiking Poles, Seat Pad, Camera, Book/Magazine, Candle Lantern, etc.

7th grade camp?

gogopogo20

What are some things I absolutly need
PS I live in Michigan

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when are you going,were are you going
roughing it ground sheet,tent,sleeping mat,sleeping bag(temperature appropriate) pillow,working flashlight,mess kit,change of clothes (under-ware and socks for each day plus 1 of each for emerg)Tshirts,sweatshirt(1) pants(2), toiletry kit(soap,toothbrush,towel)possible mini first aid kit,some sort of fire starting method(matches,flint striker)length of rope for a drying line if you get wet,comfortable waterproof hiking boots,easily prepared nutritious food,small amount of drinking water and tablets to purify more drinking water,whistle if you get lost to signal,disposable camera to show your adventure ,waterproof jacket,backpack to carry.
If in a cabin sleeping mat,sleeping bag,most of the above stuff and have a GREAT TIME ENJOY

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What's Public School like?

I just found out that I may be going to public school this year which means I did twenty hours of summer reading homework for nothing!

I am scared to death. I've gone to the same all-girls private school my entire life. I'm going into 8th grade and the public school is number 3 in the state for public schools.

What do I wear? What is the dress code (for most schools)? What is the average class size (for most schools)? Where does everyone shop? Do they like designers? Will they think I'm stuck-up? What do they wear to gym? How big are the schools? Do they carry purses? Do they have tote bags or backpacks? Can you wear sunglasses? Are you allowed to have your cell phone in school? Can you wear flip flops? How many different outfits do you need? Is it true that public schools are a year behind private schools? Are the teachers nice? How does the honors/AP system work? Are their really cliques there? How do you make friends? What is lunch like? Do they accept credit cards? How much cash should I bring? Do they require sports? Are they really good at sports? Are sports intense there? Do they wear mini-skirts? What are the most popular designers (out of Louis Vuitton, Coach, Gucci, Dolce and Gabanna, Calvin Klein, Versace, Juicy Couture, Ralph Lauren, Lacoste, Chanel, Guess?, Marc Jacobs, Miu Miu, and Pucci)

ADVICE PLEASE! I am stressing out and am in tears right now. I don't want to go to public school, everyone says I won't survive there! There are millions of questions going through my head!!!!!
At least in my private school EVERYONE is a prep. There are no other stereotypes. Grades and sports are very important. A B+ average is considered stupid. You need a C+ average at least in every subject or you get kicked out.

They require 3 sports and fitness and yoga.

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sorry to tell you but thats life. and, its public school. the only difference is there aren't any uniforms. and everyone gets stereotyped. i get stereotyped as goth, some people i know get stereotyped as scene and skater. it doesn't matter what other people think and im not trying to be mean but i don't feel sorry for you. but i will give you some tips.

1. the dress code for most schools, is
a) nothing shorter that your arms down at full length
b) the shortest sleeve you can wear is tank top length
c) no open toes shoes

2. i think the average class size is like 20-30 pretty normal

3. everyone shops differently. my cousin shops at really popular girly stores and i shop mostly at hot topic. and if you try to be like everyone else, some people may think you're stuck up but some people will think that anyway. but pretty much the only people that will who are actually stuck up themselves but won't admit it.

4. some girls carry purses. i don't. again, trying to fit it but being something you're not in the process, will most likely make people not like you. i know a girl who's like that and no one likes her.

5. no you can't have your phone at school. well, you can have it in your locker but you can't use it and its better to have it off at school.

6. you can't wear sunglasses in class. part of the dress code, another part i forgot, you can't wear hats in school. well at least not at mine.

7. and i don't know if public schools are behind private. i would think not because kids do transfer from private to public and vise versa.

8. it doesn't matter how many outfits. you wear what you have and you wear what you want when you want.

9. some teachers are mean. it all depends. i remember having some funny teachers and some pretty mean teachers.

10. the honors/AP thing im not sure. you can probably ask a teacher or someone when you get there.

11. yeah. there are cliques. and they vary depending on what grade you're in. in high school, theres jocks, probably goths or punks, girly girls, the stuck up girls, preps, nerds, etc.

12. friends. the same as anywhere. just be yourself and you might meet people who have the same interests.

13. ...no, they don't accept credit cards. what kind of question is that? its a school not a bank.

14. just bring enough money for lunch. my mom gave me a check for so much at a time and then when i needed more she wrote another check.

15. lunch is pretty normal, its also my favorite part :) you get your food on a tray, and sit at a lunch table. la de da...

16. sports aren't required but they are there if you want to play. and there are different sports for every school

17. some girls wear mini skirts. but again, no shorter that at arms length

18. and for the 3rd or 4th time, don't try to be something you aren't. its doesn't matter what the most popular designers are. just wear what you like and act you.

public school does suck, but them again, its school. its gonna suck either way. and reading you additional info, why do you like private school so much? it sounds like it would suck to me. public schools, you can be more free. and there's a variety of people. and don't make fun of people just because some other kids are. and in public school, D's and F's are considered 'stupid'. they don't actually call it that but you know what i mean. i never enjoyed school and i didn't really have any friends. my main goal was to get in and get out. and hate to break it to ya, but some kids have that problem. good luck and don't worry, its not as bad as you're making it out to be i promise. and i hope you realize that i just spent about half an hour typing this up so you better read it! just saying.

What's Public School like?

I just found out that I may be going to public school this year which means I did twenty hours of summer reading homework for nothing!

I am scared to death. I've gone to the same all-girls private school my entire life. I'm going into 8th grade and the public school is number 3 in the state for public schools.

What do I wear? What is the dress code (for most schools)? What is the average class size (for most schools)? Where does everyone shop? Do they like designers? Will they think I'm stuck-up? What do they wear to gym? How big are the schools? Do they carry purses? Do they have tote bags or backpacks? Can you wear sunglasses? Are you allowed to have your cell phone in school? Can you wear flip flops? How many different outfits do you need? Is it true that public schools are a year behind private schools? Are the teachers nice? How does the honors/AP system work? Are their really cliques there? How do you make friends? What is lunch like? Do they accept credit cards? How much cash should I bring? Do they require sports? Are they really good at sports? Are sports intense there? Do they wear mini-skirts? What are the most popular designers (out of Louis Vuitton, Coach, Gucci, Dolce and Gabanna, Calvin Klein, Versace, Juicy Couture, Ralph Lauren, Lacoste, Chanel, Guess?, Marc Jacobs, Miu Miu, and Pucci)

ADVICE PLEASE! I am stressing out and am in tears right now. I don't want to go to public school, everyone says I won't survive there! There are millions of questions going through my head!!!!!
Only kid with a credit card?.. I doubt it! My school has like 20 girls with credit cards
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