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Backpack europe for 3 months maybe less. How much is good to save??
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It will depend on exactly where you start from, where you go, exactly when you visit, how long you stay, the accommodations you use and what you see/do/eat. People who backpack around Europe generally can get by for $100 per day staying in cheap hostels and carefully watching their budget (not including airfare); 3 months would require around $9000. However, if you stay in hotels, it will cost you more. I usually spend 100 to 150 euro a night for a hotel. Prices really depend on exactly where you come from, when you visit, how you get around and what you see/do/eat.
Here are some resources that can help you plan and check options and current prices for your trip (expect prices in the future to rise):
http://www.kayak.com/ - airfares & hotels; the explore function is useful for finding the less expensive places to fly into from your starting point. Tuscany is an entire region, not a town. The most convenient airports to fly into will be Pisa or Florence, but Rome or Bologna are also reasonable options.
http://www.skyscanner.it/ - particularly good for budget flights within Europe, but you can also use everywhere as a destination to do something like the explore option on Kayak. You may not need the airfares, but you can compare to the cost of the trains to get around. this one may be more useful for you. Palermo is a long trip by train, Naples to Palermo is one leg of the trip where you might consider flying.
http://www.seat61.com/ . This includes a huge amount of information on train travel throughout Europe - much more than there is room for in an answer here. The site has links to the various national train websites where you can find schedules and prices for trains. It also includes detailed descriptions of railpasses. This will tell you how to determine whether a railpass is worth the money for your trip (in Italy where I live railpasses are almost never worth the cost), which railpass to get, and how to use the railpass. There's also information on what to avoid in particular places.
Driving can be expensive; fuel prices, tolls and parking all add up, but it can become cost effective for groups. You can check sites like Avis, Europcar, Sixt, etc, for your specific rental cost. Picking up in one country and dropping off in another can be very expensive. You can get driving distances and estimates fuel and toll costs on viamichelin: http://www.viamichelin.com/ .
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http://www.venere.com/ - hotels/B&Bs - prices for the same hotel can vary hugely depending on the season and what local events are going on.
http://www.hostelbookers.com/ - hostels.
http://www.monasterystays.com/ - monasteries & convents that offer accommodations
You can also look into camping or couch surfing as cheaper alternatives for accommodations.
http://www.whatsonwhen.com/sisp/index.ht⦠- festivals, exhibitions and events
http://www.backpackeurope.com/ - information & advice
For sightseeing prices: check the websites for entrance fees for the museums & galleries you're interested in. I spend anywhere between nothing and 40 euro a day depending on exactly what I go to see when out exploring. For food, I spend around 25 to 50 euro for a meal, but you can eat for less. When I travel, I like to try the local specialties and the good restaurants. Shopping depends entirely on you.
It will depend on exactly where you start from, where you go, exactly when you visit, how long you stay, the accommodations you use and what you see/do/eat. People who backpack around Europe generally can get by for $100 per day staying in cheap hostels and carefully watching their budget (not including airfare); 3 months would require around $9000. However, if you stay in hotels, it will cost you more. I usually spend 100 to 150 euro a night for a hotel. Prices really depend on exactly where you come from, when you visit, how you get around and what you see/do/eat.
Here are some resources that can help you plan and check options and current prices for your trip (expect prices in the future to rise):
http://www.kayak.com/ - airfares & hotels; the explore function is useful for finding the less expensive places to fly into from your starting point. Tuscany is an entire region, not a town. The most convenient airports to fly into will be Pisa or Florence, but Rome or Bologna are also reasonable options.
http://www.skyscanner.it/ - particularly good for budget flights within Europe, but you can also use everywhere as a destination to do something like the explore option on Kayak. You may not need the airfares, but you can compare to the cost of the trains to get around. this one may be more useful for you. Palermo is a long trip by train, Naples to Palermo is one leg of the trip where you might consider flying.
http://www.seat61.com/ . This includes a huge amount of information on train travel throughout Europe - much more than there is room for in an answer here. The site has links to the various national train websites where you can find schedules and prices for trains. It also includes detailed descriptions of railpasses. This will tell you how to determine whether a railpass is worth the money for your trip (in Italy where I live railpasses are almost never worth the cost), which railpass to get, and how to use the railpass. There's also information on what to avoid in particular places.
Driving can be expensive; fuel prices, tolls and parking all add up, but it can become cost effective for groups. You can check sites like Avis, Europcar, Sixt, etc, for your specific rental cost. Picking up in one country and dropping off in another can be very expensive. You can get driving distances and estimates fuel and toll costs on viamichelin: http://www.viamichelin.com/ .
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http://www.venere.com/ - hotels/B&Bs - prices for the same hotel can vary hugely depending on the season and what local events are going on.
http://www.hostelbookers.com/ - hostels.
http://www.monasterystays.com/ - monasteries & convents that offer accommodations
You can also look into camping or couch surfing as cheaper alternatives for accommodations.
http://www.whatsonwhen.com/sisp/index.ht⦠- festivals, exhibitions and events
http://www.backpackeurope.com/ - information & advice
For sightseeing prices: check the websites for entrance fees for the museums & galleries you're interested in. I spend anywhere between nothing and 40 euro a day depending on exactly what I go to see when out exploring. For food, I spend around 25 to 50 euro for a meal, but you can eat for less. When I travel, I like to try the local specialties and the good restaurants. Shopping depends entirely on you.
What are some good tips for getting through an airport faster?
Bri S
I will be taking my first flight in October and I have only the slightest idea of what the hell I am doing, and if you have ever been through the Huntsville International Airport in Alabama it would be great if you could tell me how to get through it. THANKS!! :)
Answer
Sounds like your are going to Space Camp.
Several tips, I hope they help. I do apologize for the length. I'll assume you've never been in airport. Remember traveling is adventure-it both an art as well as science.
1) a) Look on your airlines website and see when they suggest you arrive at your departing airport. Remember the people are put on the plane 20-30 minutes before departure time. Departure time, is just that, the time the jetty is rolled back from the sealed aircraft and the engines are started. That means if you get to the gate at departure time-you be staring at the wrong side of a closed cockpit door.
b) Google the aiport you are departing from. The airport's website as well as sites such as IFLY.com will also have a recommendation for how early to get to airport. While your are there glance at how the airport is laid out and where you airline's check-in counter and gates typically are.
c) Take the longest estimate of the above and add thirty minutes. Add addtional time if the Department of homeland security has set airports to either a threat level of "High" or "Severe".
d) Do not use your additional time to park and walk to terminal. I mean for you to be standing at check-in counter at that time--not just pulling into the airport.
2) Plan ahead and print out your boarding passes as soon as your airline and your daily schedule permit you to. This is typically 24-hours prior to departure time. Print out at least two copies so if you forget one somewhere you have a handy spare.
3) If possible pay for you checked bags ahead of time. Print out the reciept (again at least two copies) and have them handy. The wieght limit on bags on most airlines is fifty pounds. Shoot for 45.
4) Use the "One bag there...two bags back" method. Try to go there with only one bag and your carry on. I always carry a folded up "sea bag" (I was in the navy. Sea bags are large heavy green canvas duffels with backpack straps that can fold up to about 1/2inch by 13inches by 15 inches) in my luggage. I put my dirty clothes in there while I am at my destination. My clean clothes stay clean and now I have an empty suitcase for all the stuff I pick up while I on vacation.
5) Make and list and organize your stuff carefully. Even something as silly and turning your blue jeans inside out and folding them saves room in a suitcase. Check out this site and experiment if your don't believe me. http://www.history.navy.mil/library/online/uniform_fold.htm
6) Make your carry on meets the size standards for your airline. Also make sure it light enough and manuveerable enough to sprint across the airport. Always have "tomorrow's change of clothes" in your carry on. Keep your identity documents, prescriptions, and tolietries in your carry on. The TSA has rules on how ounces of liquids (shampoo etc) you can have in your carry one. http://www.tsa.gov/311/index.shtm Make sure you do not have any prohibited items in your carry on bag. http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/prohibited/permitted-prohibited-items.shtm
7) You are not allowed to carry soda through security. It is a liquid and they won't allow it (there are exceptions for contact lens solution and baby formula etc). There is NO rule against carrying a empty water bottle. My wife and I bought one liter plastic kegs at Wal-mart. They security no questions asked. We fill them at the water fountain on the other side of security and either make tea or lemonade.
8) Laptops and CPAP machines must be physically inspected. So able to break those out for the TSA guys at the check point. Don't bury it deep in your carry on.
9) Wear comfy shoes that can be taken off quickly at the check point. Also ditto for any belts you like to wear.
10) After you check your bags, dump all keys, cell phones, coins, and any other metal items into you carry on bag. This prevents you from having to do it at the security check point.
11) Ensure all luggage, purses, laptops, have a luggage tag on them. The airlines have them at the counter when you check or if you want a fancy one you can get them at Wal-mart.
12) If you have to connect to another flight, look at that airports website or map. Know the general lay out of it. For example if you are flying from Providence, RI to Huntsville, AL on NWA-you'll change planes in Detriot, MI. You can go the NWA website or the airport's website and get a glimspe of what is where.
So here's the process in brief. The week before you leave, make list of things you need and use that list to pack your one checked bag (goes under plane) and your one carry on (stays with you). Your carry on should have a snack, an empty plastic water bottle, a change of clothes and everything you need for 24-48 hours after you arrive. (If you bags get left behind, you can wait for the airline to reroute them to you.) If you are carrying a purse and/or laptop purge them of TSA prohibited items. The day before your flight pay your fee fo
Sounds like your are going to Space Camp.
Several tips, I hope they help. I do apologize for the length. I'll assume you've never been in airport. Remember traveling is adventure-it both an art as well as science.
1) a) Look on your airlines website and see when they suggest you arrive at your departing airport. Remember the people are put on the plane 20-30 minutes before departure time. Departure time, is just that, the time the jetty is rolled back from the sealed aircraft and the engines are started. That means if you get to the gate at departure time-you be staring at the wrong side of a closed cockpit door.
b) Google the aiport you are departing from. The airport's website as well as sites such as IFLY.com will also have a recommendation for how early to get to airport. While your are there glance at how the airport is laid out and where you airline's check-in counter and gates typically are.
c) Take the longest estimate of the above and add thirty minutes. Add addtional time if the Department of homeland security has set airports to either a threat level of "High" or "Severe".
d) Do not use your additional time to park and walk to terminal. I mean for you to be standing at check-in counter at that time--not just pulling into the airport.
2) Plan ahead and print out your boarding passes as soon as your airline and your daily schedule permit you to. This is typically 24-hours prior to departure time. Print out at least two copies so if you forget one somewhere you have a handy spare.
3) If possible pay for you checked bags ahead of time. Print out the reciept (again at least two copies) and have them handy. The wieght limit on bags on most airlines is fifty pounds. Shoot for 45.
4) Use the "One bag there...two bags back" method. Try to go there with only one bag and your carry on. I always carry a folded up "sea bag" (I was in the navy. Sea bags are large heavy green canvas duffels with backpack straps that can fold up to about 1/2inch by 13inches by 15 inches) in my luggage. I put my dirty clothes in there while I am at my destination. My clean clothes stay clean and now I have an empty suitcase for all the stuff I pick up while I on vacation.
5) Make and list and organize your stuff carefully. Even something as silly and turning your blue jeans inside out and folding them saves room in a suitcase. Check out this site and experiment if your don't believe me. http://www.history.navy.mil/library/online/uniform_fold.htm
6) Make your carry on meets the size standards for your airline. Also make sure it light enough and manuveerable enough to sprint across the airport. Always have "tomorrow's change of clothes" in your carry on. Keep your identity documents, prescriptions, and tolietries in your carry on. The TSA has rules on how ounces of liquids (shampoo etc) you can have in your carry one. http://www.tsa.gov/311/index.shtm Make sure you do not have any prohibited items in your carry on bag. http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/prohibited/permitted-prohibited-items.shtm
7) You are not allowed to carry soda through security. It is a liquid and they won't allow it (there are exceptions for contact lens solution and baby formula etc). There is NO rule against carrying a empty water bottle. My wife and I bought one liter plastic kegs at Wal-mart. They security no questions asked. We fill them at the water fountain on the other side of security and either make tea or lemonade.
8) Laptops and CPAP machines must be physically inspected. So able to break those out for the TSA guys at the check point. Don't bury it deep in your carry on.
9) Wear comfy shoes that can be taken off quickly at the check point. Also ditto for any belts you like to wear.
10) After you check your bags, dump all keys, cell phones, coins, and any other metal items into you carry on bag. This prevents you from having to do it at the security check point.
11) Ensure all luggage, purses, laptops, have a luggage tag on them. The airlines have them at the counter when you check or if you want a fancy one you can get them at Wal-mart.
12) If you have to connect to another flight, look at that airports website or map. Know the general lay out of it. For example if you are flying from Providence, RI to Huntsville, AL on NWA-you'll change planes in Detriot, MI. You can go the NWA website or the airport's website and get a glimspe of what is where.
So here's the process in brief. The week before you leave, make list of things you need and use that list to pack your one checked bag (goes under plane) and your one carry on (stays with you). Your carry on should have a snack, an empty plastic water bottle, a change of clothes and everything you need for 24-48 hours after you arrive. (If you bags get left behind, you can wait for the airline to reroute them to you.) If you are carrying a purse and/or laptop purge them of TSA prohibited items. The day before your flight pay your fee fo
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