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Canebrake
I live in Decatur, Georgia, next to Atlanta, and am planning a solo 5-day camping trip in early October within 100 miles of Flagstaff. My criteria are:
--water
--seclusion
--much beauty
--strenuous is OK, maybe preferred
--bonus: good side trails, especially historic ones.
Iâve looked at 3 AZ trail books, & narrowed my choices to 5: Fossil Springs, West Clear Creek, Secret Canyon, Bell, and Kelsey-Dorsey. (BUT, I'm VERY open to other suggestions.)
Iâm an experienced backpacker, with little experience in the West. Last fall, I spent 3 days with a buddy at Phantom Ranch--down North Kaibab, back up Bright Angel. 1st time at G.C. & 1st AZ trip ever.
I understand that some of these 5 are popular, but secluded on weekdays, especially in Oct. True? I'd appreciate any suggestions you have--the more broad and detailed, the better. Thanks so much.
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I've backpacked both Secret Canyon, Fossil Creek and West Clear Creek. Both are very pretty places and meet most of your criteria above.
While Fossil Creek is one of the prettiest areas in the state, the distance from the trailhead to the springs is pretty short, so it would be more of a hike in and stay put for a few days trip - rather than covering a lot of ground. Also, Fossil Creek has got a LOT of attention lately due to a recent documentary about it. I don't know about week days, but it is pretty popular on weekends. If you do go there, be sure to take a little side trip down to Verde Hot Springs which is just up-creek on the Verde from where Fossil Creek empties into it.
When I backpacked West Clear Creek, it was by coming in the mouth of the canyon near Camp Verde (Bull Pen Ranch). There were a lot of day trippers (and trash) near the trail, but we had the canyon (which got progressively more pretty) to ourselves after a few miles.
While I liked that route, the upper portions of the canyon (going in near Clints Well) are probably more pretty, dramatic and have more solitude (certainly more strenouous). I've only day hiked a small section of the upper portion, but it was great (by the way, this section of the canyon was recently featured in Arizona Highways - including the cover photo). Be warned, that the upper portions in particular require some deep wading in places which could be cold that time of year.
One additional route that you should look into (it is on my list) is do a segment of the Highline Trail that runs just below the rim NE of the Payson area. It is one of the few that is long enough that you could do 5 days on the move. You will be moving from one spring or drainage to the next, so you need to plan camps around water. I have day hiked segments of it, and it looks like a great place for an extended backpack.
Can't tell you much about Bell or K-D.
Enjoy! That is a good time of year to be hiking in AZ. Be warned that the northern parts of state will be getting cold (especially at night) by that time.
I've backpacked both Secret Canyon, Fossil Creek and West Clear Creek. Both are very pretty places and meet most of your criteria above.
While Fossil Creek is one of the prettiest areas in the state, the distance from the trailhead to the springs is pretty short, so it would be more of a hike in and stay put for a few days trip - rather than covering a lot of ground. Also, Fossil Creek has got a LOT of attention lately due to a recent documentary about it. I don't know about week days, but it is pretty popular on weekends. If you do go there, be sure to take a little side trip down to Verde Hot Springs which is just up-creek on the Verde from where Fossil Creek empties into it.
When I backpacked West Clear Creek, it was by coming in the mouth of the canyon near Camp Verde (Bull Pen Ranch). There were a lot of day trippers (and trash) near the trail, but we had the canyon (which got progressively more pretty) to ourselves after a few miles.
While I liked that route, the upper portions of the canyon (going in near Clints Well) are probably more pretty, dramatic and have more solitude (certainly more strenouous). I've only day hiked a small section of the upper portion, but it was great (by the way, this section of the canyon was recently featured in Arizona Highways - including the cover photo). Be warned, that the upper portions in particular require some deep wading in places which could be cold that time of year.
One additional route that you should look into (it is on my list) is do a segment of the Highline Trail that runs just below the rim NE of the Payson area. It is one of the few that is long enough that you could do 5 days on the move. You will be moving from one spring or drainage to the next, so you need to plan camps around water. I have day hiked segments of it, and it looks like a great place for an extended backpack.
Can't tell you much about Bell or K-D.
Enjoy! That is a good time of year to be hiking in AZ. Be warned that the northern parts of state will be getting cold (especially at night) by that time.
What are the best brands/ styles for women's backpacking boots?
punk_pony
I am going to be a camp counselor leading 3-12 day backpacking trips this summer and I need some new boots. This is going to be the most backpacking I have done in one summer, and I want to make sure I have the right shoes for it. Most of the hiking will be done on well maintained trails with a bit of cross country. Thanks for your help!
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Poppy: By "style" she probably means "type", like high-ankle, low-ankle, leather, mesh, etc.
Anyway Mosh, it's different for different people and situations. Are you going to be carrying a heavy pack or do you have weak ankles or anything like that? If so, you might want high boots to support your ankles in case you stumble. But those can sometimes rub more or become too hot, so think about it.
What will the weather be like? If it will be mostly sunny you might want to look for more breathable boots with some mesh so your feet don't cook. If you think it will be wet/rainy though, don't get mesh.
Don't get boots that restrict your toes, because they can get injured by walking all day in a cramped position. When you find a boot you like, try it in a half-size up and see if it's more comfortable. But also make sure your heel doesn't slip around too much or you might get blisters.
Make sure the arch feels good, and/or consider getting inserts. (This is very much up to your own experience and judgement.)
And of course make sure there are no parts of the boot that poke or rub or press on any part of your foot. It may seem like a tiny detail at first, but after a day it will hurt. Boots lined with a good amount if squishy padding are good because it ensures none of the stiffer materials will be resting against your ankle/foot. :) I have some Adidas and some Vasque like that, they both have great padding and never rub or give me blisters, especially the Adidas. But don't pick by brand, everyone's foot-shape is different and every brand is shaped different, so pick the one that fits your feet.
Also, always bring extra socks and duct tape or moleskin or something. :)
Poppy: By "style" she probably means "type", like high-ankle, low-ankle, leather, mesh, etc.
Anyway Mosh, it's different for different people and situations. Are you going to be carrying a heavy pack or do you have weak ankles or anything like that? If so, you might want high boots to support your ankles in case you stumble. But those can sometimes rub more or become too hot, so think about it.
What will the weather be like? If it will be mostly sunny you might want to look for more breathable boots with some mesh so your feet don't cook. If you think it will be wet/rainy though, don't get mesh.
Don't get boots that restrict your toes, because they can get injured by walking all day in a cramped position. When you find a boot you like, try it in a half-size up and see if it's more comfortable. But also make sure your heel doesn't slip around too much or you might get blisters.
Make sure the arch feels good, and/or consider getting inserts. (This is very much up to your own experience and judgement.)
And of course make sure there are no parts of the boot that poke or rub or press on any part of your foot. It may seem like a tiny detail at first, but after a day it will hurt. Boots lined with a good amount if squishy padding are good because it ensures none of the stiffer materials will be resting against your ankle/foot. :) I have some Adidas and some Vasque like that, they both have great padding and never rub or give me blisters, especially the Adidas. But don't pick by brand, everyone's foot-shape is different and every brand is shaped different, so pick the one that fits your feet.
Also, always bring extra socks and duct tape or moleskin or something. :)
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