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ryan k
I want to go backpacking after i graduate college.
I was wondering how much it would cost.
I'm not sure of how long but at least a year. (cheapest everything. crappy food. crappy everything. i'll be living off bare necessities.)
Is it best to go in a camper van?
Hostels or Camps?
Solo or group?
I have so many Qs..
Answer
A camper van would be the most expensive way unless you buy a cheap old van and use it with more people than really fit, sharing the cost. Even then it is not likely to be cheaper than traveling by bus and staying on cheap campsites or camping wild where allowed.
Petrol/gas is expensive and in many countries in Europe you will still need to stay on campgrounds so you would still need to pay per night. And all vans that are ready to use as camper van cost a lot.
Mostly the people who travel in Europe for a longer while use hostels or, in summer, a small tent they can carry by public transport and on longer hikes. Campsites are nearly never near train stations, certainly never in the center of town.
Big parts of Europe have rain round the year and camping often is no fun, in my opinion.
For money, traveling around the cheapest way, using the big dorms in the cheapest hostels, buying your food from the cheap supermarkets and cooking it yourself, spending next to nothing on sightseeing and drinking, you still need â¬40 per day, say $US 50 at todays exchange rate.
As you will most likely not be able to work to top up your bank account (it depends on where you are from whether you can get a working holiday permit, but US citizens can not get them at all, Ausies, Kiwis and Loonies under conditions but still, getting jobs is not easy to impossible,) you will need a fortune to be able to travel for a year.
And besides, there are the legal sides of the things.
As a non European you will mostly not be allowed to stay more than 90 days in the Schengen countries, that is most of continental Europe, and for the UK it might be 180 days if you are lucky.
Traveling back and forth between the two areas, while legally allowed, gets you often in trouble with customs or immigration officers who do not believe you can live from that little money and not working illegally in their country (and often they are right too.)
I would set out traveling alone, as no group can expect to travel a long period and not run into trouble. Disagreements on where to go and how long to stay are the least.
While traveling you will meet up with others, specially in the hostels, and if you meet someone you like you can spend the next few days, weeks or even months together.
A camper van would be the most expensive way unless you buy a cheap old van and use it with more people than really fit, sharing the cost. Even then it is not likely to be cheaper than traveling by bus and staying on cheap campsites or camping wild where allowed.
Petrol/gas is expensive and in many countries in Europe you will still need to stay on campgrounds so you would still need to pay per night. And all vans that are ready to use as camper van cost a lot.
Mostly the people who travel in Europe for a longer while use hostels or, in summer, a small tent they can carry by public transport and on longer hikes. Campsites are nearly never near train stations, certainly never in the center of town.
Big parts of Europe have rain round the year and camping often is no fun, in my opinion.
For money, traveling around the cheapest way, using the big dorms in the cheapest hostels, buying your food from the cheap supermarkets and cooking it yourself, spending next to nothing on sightseeing and drinking, you still need â¬40 per day, say $US 50 at todays exchange rate.
As you will most likely not be able to work to top up your bank account (it depends on where you are from whether you can get a working holiday permit, but US citizens can not get them at all, Ausies, Kiwis and Loonies under conditions but still, getting jobs is not easy to impossible,) you will need a fortune to be able to travel for a year.
And besides, there are the legal sides of the things.
As a non European you will mostly not be allowed to stay more than 90 days in the Schengen countries, that is most of continental Europe, and for the UK it might be 180 days if you are lucky.
Traveling back and forth between the two areas, while legally allowed, gets you often in trouble with customs or immigration officers who do not believe you can live from that little money and not working illegally in their country (and often they are right too.)
I would set out traveling alone, as no group can expect to travel a long period and not run into trouble. Disagreements on where to go and how long to stay are the least.
While traveling you will meet up with others, specially in the hostels, and if you meet someone you like you can spend the next few days, weeks or even months together.
What are some essentials for traveling alone?
V Aletheia
I will be living a vagabond-like lifestyle and would like to know the necessities for traveling solo.
Any suggestions and/or advice is welcome (and appreciated).
Answer
Have a good nest egg before you start, as well as a credit card for emergencies. Always be very aware of your surroundings. Carry yourself in a confident manner. Keep money and valuables out of sight. Have a plan for each day, and know where you will be when night falls - be settled before dark. Stick to well travelled routes and areas. Don't go into known dangerous areas. Touch base with someone at home every day on a planned schedule so that if something is wrong someone will know quickly. Make sure family and friends know your daily plans. When something doesn't feel right, trust your gut instincts. Carry basic medications and first aid materials with you.
Here are a few ideas for things you may need, depending on how you plan to travel and where you plan to sleep:
good quality backpack with many pockets, sleeping bag, mattress pad, good quality swiss army knife, several pairs of socks and underwear, water bladder, good hiking boots or shoes, several t-shirts, one easy care outfit for dressy occasions, shorts, one pair of long pants, sandals, a good hat such as a Tilley hat, sunglasses, possibly basic camping equipment if you intend to camp, maps and guides to the areas you intend to visit.
Remember that you don't need to carry everything with you. You can buy things as you need them.
Have a good nest egg before you start, as well as a credit card for emergencies. Always be very aware of your surroundings. Carry yourself in a confident manner. Keep money and valuables out of sight. Have a plan for each day, and know where you will be when night falls - be settled before dark. Stick to well travelled routes and areas. Don't go into known dangerous areas. Touch base with someone at home every day on a planned schedule so that if something is wrong someone will know quickly. Make sure family and friends know your daily plans. When something doesn't feel right, trust your gut instincts. Carry basic medications and first aid materials with you.
Here are a few ideas for things you may need, depending on how you plan to travel and where you plan to sleep:
good quality backpack with many pockets, sleeping bag, mattress pad, good quality swiss army knife, several pairs of socks and underwear, water bladder, good hiking boots or shoes, several t-shirts, one easy care outfit for dressy occasions, shorts, one pair of long pants, sandals, a good hat such as a Tilley hat, sunglasses, possibly basic camping equipment if you intend to camp, maps and guides to the areas you intend to visit.
Remember that you don't need to carry everything with you. You can buy things as you need them.
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