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bamboohott
im looking for a price for the next 4 years. about in the year 2010. how much money would it cost then to find about 20-30 people then pay for yourself and one other person? please give me all rates(plane/boat hotel rental, equip cost) anything you can would be great as well. Thank you!
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FOR A ONE MONTH TRIP
AIRFARE: $800-1000. (cheaper if you live on the east coast)
LODGING: approx. $600. for 30 nights -- shared hotel or youth hostel ($20+ night/per person.) Slightly cheaper if camping. I can't remember how much camping fees are.
TRANSPORTATION: $750. --- Eurail Pass is $635-1 month. Average taxi ride from airport $60-75. Average taxi ride in town $10-15. Average subway/bus ride $2. or less. Boat tour in Paris $12-$20.
MEALS: $300. per person. Store bought food. No restaurants. No fast food. You can eat for $10. per person (per day) if you are smart about it.
So, it looks like you could use $3,000. per person for a bare-bones but semi-comfortable, month-long trek through europe using Eurail and staying in modest places, such as IYHA Hostels. This does not include drinking, shopping, phone calls, gifts, entertainment or emergencies. You might be able to trim $500. from this if you know people to stay with or aren't afraid to really "rough it."
FOR A ONE MONTH TRIP
AIRFARE: $800-1000. (cheaper if you live on the east coast)
LODGING: approx. $600. for 30 nights -- shared hotel or youth hostel ($20+ night/per person.) Slightly cheaper if camping. I can't remember how much camping fees are.
TRANSPORTATION: $750. --- Eurail Pass is $635-1 month. Average taxi ride from airport $60-75. Average taxi ride in town $10-15. Average subway/bus ride $2. or less. Boat tour in Paris $12-$20.
MEALS: $300. per person. Store bought food. No restaurants. No fast food. You can eat for $10. per person (per day) if you are smart about it.
So, it looks like you could use $3,000. per person for a bare-bones but semi-comfortable, month-long trek through europe using Eurail and staying in modest places, such as IYHA Hostels. This does not include drinking, shopping, phone calls, gifts, entertainment or emergencies. You might be able to trim $500. from this if you know people to stay with or aren't afraid to really "rough it."
Do you have any tips for a beginner winter camper?
Simba
I would like to try winter camping. I have been summer camping quite a bit but mostly just at campgrounds. There is a campground about an hour away that has year round camping so I was thinking about trying it for a weekend. What tips to you have for a beginner winter camper, who has intermediate summer camping experience? What gear would I need? This is what I was thinking.
4 Season tent
Winter sleeping bag
Snow shoes
Warm winter clothes
What am I missing? Any additional tips?
Answer
tons of info on the web, here is the most intensive one I have found and refer to the most.
http://www.princeton.edu/~oa/winter/wintcamp.shtml
As for your list of gear some of that partly depends on where you are. Winter camping in the desert you won't need snow shoes but all the rest of those items yes you will. For a beginner I recommend starting out by renting a cabin in a wilderness area that way you have options to retreat too should plans go awry.
http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/sequoia/recreation/rec_rentals.html
Tents are the main place to retreat to and a four season is the best to use, size is also very important. if you have 2 go with a 3-4 man, 4 go with a 6 man and so on. You need to have room for the gear to stash out of the weather. Include a tarp to use for rain shelter and wind breaks, not all winter camping has snowy weather. Coleman makes one of the best winter tents on the market, Exponent Northstar X6 Tent
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00697792000P?prdNo=4&blockNo=4&blockType=G4&isABTestAvl=true
Clothing is critical and dress in layers, avoid cotton here is a great article telling you how and what to look for,
http://www.rei.com/expertadvice/articles/dress+layers.html
As for winter sleeping bags, definitely go with a well known product rated for zero degrees or colder. Down filled bags ounce for ounce keep you the warmest however and this is very important when they get wet they become useless hypothermia freezers. I consider the weight factor and survival factor and choose the synthetic over down every time. Here is my choice,
http://www.rei.com/product/778929/marmot-trestles-0-sleeping-bag
Always use a check list so you don't forget gear and here is a good one,
http://www.rei.com/expertadvice/articles/backpacking+checklist.html
tons of info on the web, here is the most intensive one I have found and refer to the most.
http://www.princeton.edu/~oa/winter/wintcamp.shtml
As for your list of gear some of that partly depends on where you are. Winter camping in the desert you won't need snow shoes but all the rest of those items yes you will. For a beginner I recommend starting out by renting a cabin in a wilderness area that way you have options to retreat too should plans go awry.
http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/sequoia/recreation/rec_rentals.html
Tents are the main place to retreat to and a four season is the best to use, size is also very important. if you have 2 go with a 3-4 man, 4 go with a 6 man and so on. You need to have room for the gear to stash out of the weather. Include a tarp to use for rain shelter and wind breaks, not all winter camping has snowy weather. Coleman makes one of the best winter tents on the market, Exponent Northstar X6 Tent
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00697792000P?prdNo=4&blockNo=4&blockType=G4&isABTestAvl=true
Clothing is critical and dress in layers, avoid cotton here is a great article telling you how and what to look for,
http://www.rei.com/expertadvice/articles/dress+layers.html
As for winter sleeping bags, definitely go with a well known product rated for zero degrees or colder. Down filled bags ounce for ounce keep you the warmest however and this is very important when they get wet they become useless hypothermia freezers. I consider the weight factor and survival factor and choose the synthetic over down every time. Here is my choice,
http://www.rei.com/product/778929/marmot-trestles-0-sleeping-bag
Always use a check list so you don't forget gear and here is a good one,
http://www.rei.com/expertadvice/articles/backpacking+checklist.html
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