2-3 day backpacking pack?

Marc

Hello!
To start off, I'm the textbook definition of a backpacking beginner. I don't know ANYTHING! I know I'll need a backpack that can hold all my supplies from a tent to my food. Besides that, I know nothing... so keep the fancy words out please?

So my friends and I are an ambitious group of 17 year olds, and we want to go backpacking this summer. We plan to do an overnight camping trip at Brown County State park. The first concern I need to get out of the way is a backpack. I talked to a guy at Bass Pro Shop, but he didn't help much. I need to know what size bag I'm looking for. He suggested just a plain old ordinary backpack, but a little more rugged.
I'd totally go for that, but a standard rugged backpack cost some $$$. I want a backpacking backpack that'll be good for an overnight, but if we find out we like it I'll still be able to use it for a 2-3 day trip.
I'm a teenager still, so I can't buy a backpack specifically for an overnight, then a 2-3 day. BACKPACKS ARE EXPENSIVE!!

Here's what I'm looking at so far, will it be sufficient? (Please suggest any other packs if you want, I really need help...)

http://shop.camelbak.com/2012-vantage-ft/d/1024

I found it cheaper on another site, but I thought you'd like the specs straight from the source. This one is a little more expensive, but it comes with a water bladder. Those things alone are an extra +$30, so I think that's a good price.
Keep in mind there'll be 3 more of us, so we'll be able to divide up the tent.

PLEASE help me find a good backpack and if you have any advice for camping gear or just plan old camping advice for us n00bs, it'd be much appreciated. Thanks!
I found this one too, is it sufficient?

http://www.ebags.com/product/high-sierra/titan-55/210782?productid=10127369&rlid=DETAIL

Answer
The first link is only rated for 20-35 pounds so it doesn't sound very durable (tough).
The 2nd link has so much junk on it, I wonder what it weighs. But you definitely need to spend more than $60 to get a good pack. You should be thinking in the $150 range if you want it to last.

Consider North Face Terra 65. I have the 60. It is very well made and light weight. The 65 has more space inside than the 60.
http://www.thenorthface.com/catalog/sc-gear/terra-65-pack.html

THINGS TO THINK ABOUT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPjGIheVi4w&feature=endscreen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttRFIvsuf4A&feature=related
Don't forget bandannas and duct tape.

Flask: In need of the best and warmest.?

Mountain_C

Hey, I'm in need of a heat retaining flask, but not just any flask. The absolute warmest flask to keep hot liquids warm for 24h or more. Price doesn't matter. I've heard about the Aladdin Stanley bolt flask and the Aladdin challenger flask but some reviews say they have dropped heat retention over just a year...... I intend using this Flask for mountaineering, a few years perhaps the Himalayas so I will use it in conjunction with the Outdoor Research Flask Parka. If you have experience with the best and warmest heat retaining flask or know about, then please share. Thank you.

Answer
The solution is called a "stove."

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On my first backpacking trip of in 2012, I established a base camp below tree line on flat ground near the cabin. After boiling four liters of water and drinking a bottle of hot chocolate, I hunkered deep into my down sleeping bag through twelve hours of a cold night in the dull glow of a nearly full moon.

At first light, I crawled out of my low-profile shelter and dined on a handful of nuts with another bottle of coffee blended with more hot chocolate. Following a path across tundra meadow and hip high willows, I turned southeast at a junction to ascend the northwest ridge of Mount Belford on snow-filled, crumbly switchbacks.

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